Obama opens double-digit lead Oct 11, 2008
Obama now leads McCain on the economy and jobs (54 percent to 35 percent); on the Iraq war (47 percent to 46 percent); on energy policy and gas prices (53 percent to 36 percent); on health care (56 percent to 30 percent); on taxes and government spending (50 percent to 39 percent); on the financial problems of Wall Street and the mortgage crisis (50 percent to 34 percent); and on issues like abortion, guns and same-sex marriage (46 percent to 39 percent) ... Comment: I am a Christian and I do... (MSNBC -- Politics)
Did 'SOUTH PARK' go too far this time? Oct 11, 2008
South Park' vs. Lucas and Spielberg: Too far. What you're watching. (The Drudge Report)
Abortion ultrasound requirement challenged Oct 11, 2008
OKLAHOMA CITY - An advocacy group is suing over an Oklahoma law that prohibits a woman from getting an abortion unless she first has an ultrasound and the doctor describes to her what the fetus looks like ... The law, set to go into effect Nov. 1, would make Oklahoma the fourth state in the nation to require that ultrasounds be performed before a woman can have an abortion and that the ultrasounds be made available to the patient for viewing, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a Washington,... (MSNBC -- Crime)
Palin abused her power, inquiry concludes Oct 11, 2008
Would you really trust her to make decisions for you about abortion, the relationship of Church and State, censorship, women s rights, health care, sex education and contraception, the economy, and national security. She has proven to be just an empty-headed, intolerant, hypocritical, selfish, divisive, lying, phony-Joe-Sixpack, incredibly dangerous neocom puppet who will always put her own personal gain ahead of any attempt to actually serve our country and our citizens. (Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- Opinion)
The horror that lies within Oct 11, 2008
Obama s mother should have chosen abortion. By AmVet. (Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- Opinion)
Emergency pill for Chilean girls Oct 11, 2008
The Catholic Church and opposition parties are against the move - they say the morning-after pill is a method of abortion, which is illegal in Chile ... Despite having some of the most restrictive anti-abortion laws in the world, it is estimated that in Chile 35% of all pregnancies are terminated illegally. (Yahoo News -- Birth Control)
Palin: Obama "Atrocious" On Abortion Oct 11, 2008
GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin described her rival Barack Obamas radical position on abortion as absolutely atrocious on Laura Ingrahams radio program Thursday ... His position on this and on life has been his vote against legislation--three times voting against legislation that would provide medical care to a baby born having been a survivor of an abortion, she said ... She recently had a child with Downs Syndrome, a condition many mothers are encouraged to... (Townhall.com)
Morgentaler receives Order of Canada in Quebec City Oct 11, 2008
Morgentaler, 85 is best known for taking his fight to have the country's abortion laws struck down in the Supreme Court about 20 years ago. His naming to the Order of Canada sparked protests from across the country with some members returning their orders and abortion opponents saying the award devalues the honour ... Anti-abortionists and pro-lifers. (CTV.ca)
Iowan Defends Obama 'Baby Killer' Yard Sign Oct 11, 2008
Woman Added Anti-Abortion Message To Obama Sign ... Michelle Schadler said she posted the sign to criticize Obama's abortion rights stance, and she said she has every right to do so ... Schadler said she also felt her sign was offensive, but she is also offended by abortion. (KCRA 3, CA)
Victorian abortion controversy not over Oct 11, 2008
Victoria's parliament has decriminalised abortion, but the controversy surrounding the legislation is far from over. The state's upper house Friday night passed the Abortion Law Reform Bill 2008, unamended, 23 votes to 17 ... Abortion has now been removed as an offence in the Crimes Act and terminations are legal up to 24 weeks gestation. (Sydney Morning Herald -- Australia)
POINT-COUNTERPOINT: Reasons to vote for Obama-Biden Oct 11, 2008
Prayerful wrote on Oct 6, 2008 11:17 PM:" If you do not mind a baby being killed as it is being born then Obama is your man. He is for Partial birth abortion. Call it what it is - murder-. This practice needs to stop now. With prayer it and our vote it will. Each person reading this was fortunate enough that someone cared enough to have you. Every Baby from the moment of conception should have the same right. " ... While Jesus would stand behind many of the social issues on the democratic... (Sierra Vista Herald, AZ)
Palin slams Obama on abortion; defends 'Troopergate' role Oct 11, 2008
Barack Obama on the issue of abortion during campaign stops today in Western Pennsylvania ... Barack Obama on the issue of abortion ... "Mr. Obama is a politician who has long since left the middle ground on the issue of life," she said, criticizing the Democratic presidential nominee -- who supports abortion rights -- for his opposition to a bill in the Illinois legislature that would have prohibited partial birth abortions. (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, PA)
The enemy's within Oct 11, 2008
His Excellency correctly noted that Christie Whitman's abortion stance is "totally contrary" to Catholic teaching ("Catholic school disinvites Whit man -- Trenton bishop cites her pro-choice stance," Oct. 7) ... Catholic elementary and high schools have no business opening up their speaking floors to anyone who consistently and publicly disregards the church's teaching on the issue of abortion, regardless of how much "critical thinking" may be involved ... It is particularly insensitive that... (NJ.com -- Times)
Election 2008 Letters (Sept. 25) Oct 11, 2008
As he was poking fun at the protesters on the streets of Denver, he made this statement: But here s the really freaky part: These groups are all made up of people who believe that Barack Obama s Democratic Party which wants to raise taxes, insure abortion on demand, create a crippling carbon cap-and-trade regime, commence a rapid pull-out from Iraq, and abandon U.S. allies from Israel to Georgia isn t liberal enough ... Women who support the McCain-Palin ticket are saying that they do not... (Corvallis Gazette Times, OR)
Joe Orso: The difference between supporting Palin for vice president, pastor Oct 11, 2008
Munns, like Bartling, named Palin s stand against abortion as a major reason for supporting her ... PHIL OSIFER wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:51 PM:" Most of you people need to remove the twig from your eyes. I defend Pastor and I am not a WELS member. I notice that you people also condem the Roman Catholic Church for it's stand on abortion. Which Biden,Kerry,Kennedy and many other Dems support and they are all Roman Catholics [in name only my I add]. If we do not stick to or get back to a moral code... (La Crosse Tribune, WI)
Round Two: Boring Oct 11, 2008
Why were there no questions about the Supreme Court, abortion, or immigration; three extremely hot topics. There was nothing about Barack Obama1s leftist friends, like William Ayers. (Human Events Online)
No candidate endorsements from the pulpit Oct 11, 2008
Almost every big issue in public life abortion, environmental protection, poverty or war has a moral dimension which makes it a subject of action or comment by churches, and it seems unreasonable to allow ministers to discuss positions on issues but not discuss the people who put positions into practice. The danger, however, is that allowing the exercise of that kind of power will do more harm than good and will override other factors for the people listening in pews. (Racine Journal Times, WI)
Bush vetoes stem cell funds bill Oct 11, 2008
The process of extracting stem cells from an embryo destroys that entity; conservative Republicans have likened the destruction of frozen human embryos to abortion. Surveys suggest a majority of Americans support expanded stem-cell research. (Yahoo News -- Human Stem Cell Research)
Bringing Guantanamo Home Oct 11, 2008
The Uighurs fled Chinese persecution (including forced abortion and banishment) and settled in Afghanistan, then moved on to Pakistan in 2001 to escape bombing raids. There they were turned over by local villagers to American authorities for bounty. (Slate)
To the Editor: Obama's 'change' for the worse Oct 11, 2008
Obama also believes any baby should not be helped medically or any other way if it survives an abortion. Obama s beliefs are if an aborted baby survives an abortion, opens its eyes, breathes through its own lungs, cries, or does anything a newborn baby should do on its own, it should not be helped ... Is not a baby that survives an abortion sick and in need of care. (Gaylord Herald Times, MI)
COLUMN: Will you choose the comb-over poster child or Mr. Big Ears for president? Oct 10, 2008
injustice85 wrote on Oct 4, 2008 1:14 PM:" yup Tom there are some dumb voters out there, how many voted for Hillary because she was a woman, how many will vote for McCain based on his abortion stance alone, those people shouldn't even be allowed to vote but maybe just maybe they know they've got the right candidate in mind, i'm sure a bunch of old white catholic guys are voting for McCain just because he is an old white guy that likes war ". AllYouNeedIsLove wrote on Oct 4, 2008 4:35 PM:" I'm... (Mattoon Journal-Gazette, IL)
LETTER: Right to choose comes before the 'act' Oct 10, 2008
Having an abortion seems like a cruel thing to do to an unborn child ... I am not against abortion, hear what I m saying ... But, abortion, because someone is too lazy to put on protection, or take a pill is so selfish. (Mattoon Journal-Gazette, IL)
Proposed ban ignites cigar smoker protests Oct 10, 2008
At Stanza Dei Sigari in the North End, one passionate smoker said the move violates her rights as much a government ban on abortion. "It's like pro-life, pro-choice. That's how I think of it," said Stacey Kennison, sipping a glass of red wine with a friend. (Boston Globe)
Losing female support, McCain alters approach Oct 10, 2008
At their convention in August, Democrats who once used social issues and Supreme Court nominations to rally women largely avoided mention of abortion, and talked up equal-pay and workplace-discrimination policies instead. Yet Obama has maintained a quieter but aggressive campaign through mail and radio ads to claim that his opponent "will make abortion illegal." McCain's strategists have conceded that the candidate's opposition to abortion has hurt his standing among suburban women. (Boston Globe)
Obama will win, get used to it Oct 10, 2008
Master Sparks wrote on Oct 9, 2008 6:23 AM:" You didn't sign your moniker ,but I guess you're "coffee brewed". I never said I was perfect. You're implying that to make you feel better.You have no problem with abortion ( murder). I took catachism for 12 years , lectured and was a lay minister.I taught religion for 5 years. What do you promote? I strive ,and it's not easy, to treat people better. I am in a position where I lead by example. I speak out against corruption and injustice. Why talk... (New Iberia, LA)
'Vulgar' Sex Talk Oct 10, 2008
According to a National Enquirer report, Britney's baby sister is 8 weeks pregnant, with the tab saying pals are urging the teen mom to have an abortion. "I was with Lynne Spears all day today and she thinks it's totally ridiculous," the source told Tarts on Wednesday afternoon. (Fox News)
McCain, Palin: Throwing dirt Oct 10, 2008
Keith wrote on Oct 9, 2008 9:38 AM:" How do Republican voters feel about a candidate associating with an abortion clinic bomber? How about G. Gordon Liddy who was actually convicted for his crimes and served time? He proudly stated that he plotted to kill and was ready to do so in the break in if necessary. Isn't one's views of Ayers more a matter of perception than substance in light of the violence committed by both sides? AT least Obama, and Democrats, don't bestow celebrity status upon Ayers... (Sioux City Journal, IO)
New embryo test to screen for 6,000 diseases Oct 10, 2008
The plan was to have an abortion if the test revealed she was carrying a boy ... "I just couldn't bring myself to have an abortion knowing there was a child growing inside me," she said ... "There is nothing worse than knowing you are going to watch your own child die." Linda became pregnant again some years later, and decided to have the test, even though she knew that again, she would not have an abortion if the baby was male. (Yahoo News -- Biotechnology and Genetics)
New bill aims to educate parents and doctors on Down syndrome and other conditions Oct 10, 2008
Brownback, an anti-abortion advocate, and Sen. Kennedy, an abortion rights advocate, who contacted him in the hopes of building legislation that would address the concerns raised in Skotko s research ... The Kennedy-Brownback bill is perhaps most notable for bringing anti-abortion and abortion rights activists together in a collaborative effort. (Melrose Free Press, MA)
Obama purchases half hour of primetime on CBS, also in talks with FOX, NBC... DEVELOPING... Oct 10, 2008
Obama buys half-hour of network primetime--The Live Feed. Obama buys half-hour of network primetime. (The Drudge Report)
A Democrat not on this blog Oct 10, 2008
Of course for leftists, who deem abortion as a medical sacrament, the extension makes sense. 4- and finally, why dont the christians in our country today act more like christ wouldve have wanted them to act. (Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- Opinion)
Emergency pill for Chilean girls Oct 10, 2008
The Catholic Church and opposition parties are against the move - they say the morning-after pill is a method of abortion, which is illegal in Chile ... Despite having some of the most restrictive anti-abortion laws in the world, it is estimated that in Chile 35% of all pregnancies are terminated illegally. (Yahoo News -- Birth Control)
Obama-Biden Judicial Litmus Test Exposed, But Who Cares? Oct 10, 2008
In his Senate testimony, then-Supreme Court nominee John Roberts acknowledged that, at the Appellate Court level, he had an obligation to respect the precedents established by the Supreme Court, including the controversial decisions regarding abortion. He specifically said that Roe v. Wade was the settled law of the land and that there was nothing in his personal views that would prevent him from fully and faithfully applying that precedent. (Townhall.com)
Bush has made us safer Oct 10, 2008
Patriot wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:09 PM:" This is what we get with an Obama presidency...Radical, unrestricted, and partial-birth abortions...Legalized gay marriage once the Barack stacks the courts with liberal justices...Serious restrictions on the right to own firearms...Higher taxes on small business - which are the engine of growth and job creation in this country...A newfound DISRESPECT from rogue nations all over the world as they roar with laughter that America has elected someone like... (Rockingham Daily Journal, NC)
LETTERS: NCT, Oct. 10, 2008 Oct 10, 2008
3) Palin opposes abortion even in cases of rape and incest. 4) Palin forced top Wasilla employees to resign as a loyalty test. (North County Times)
Small-town values aren't qualification for holding office Oct 10, 2008
he also would tell his kids to have an abortion rather than be dragged down with a baby ... the only right he believes the constitution gives is the right of free speech, as it relates to his liberal mainstream media, and the rights that his beloved aclu give to rapists, murderers and abortionists ... " hillbillytea wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:22 PM:" I cersainly don't agree an the issue of late term abortions, but how many bomds have been droped on un suspecting civilians. (Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier)
Obama supports aborting babies Oct 10, 2008
The Born Alive Infants Protection Act goes back to a Chicago hospital, where induced labor abortions were being performed on a regular basis. The late-second, early-third trimester abortions involve inducing labor, birthing baby almost all the way, and usually killing them by suctioning their brains out while the head remains inside the mother ... But no thought had been given to medical treatment after they survive an abortion. (Coos Bay-North Bend The World, OR)
Editor's Mailbag (Oct. 7) Oct 10, 2008
You lost the bet, and are pro-choice which means you are OK with abortion, just as I said. You have decided the bet was whether you said the exact words "I, Barefoot, am in favor of abortion." That is not what the bet was about and you are trying to redefine the bet after you lost it ... " Bill wrote on Oct 9, 2008 1:13 PM:" Barefoot, you were using the Bible's lack of a position on abortion in support of an argument against the idea that abortion is killing. (Albany Democrat-Herald, OR)
Anti-United Nations measure stalls in House vote Oct 10, 2008
Call king george at 202-456-1111 and demand that he stop this abortion of justice. THEN you can have something to puff your chests out about. (Yahoo News -- United Nations)
Obama's 1/2 hour of airtime Oct 10, 2008
Abortion & Traditional Values. Banned Partial Birth Abortion by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade ... Reversed Clinton s move to strike Reagan s anti-abortion Mexico Policy. (Atlanta Journal-Constitution)
Letters for Thursday, October 9, 2008 Oct 10, 2008
Obama has extreme position on abortion ... I wonder, though, whether inquirers will learn that Barack Obama, when he was an Illinois state senator, during three successive years opposed a legislative proposal which would have mandated that babies who were born alive - breathing, and with a heartbeat - during an abortion attempt were to be given medical treatment rather than just placed somewhere out of the way until they died as a result of their neglect ... Now, when a baby has already been... (Missoulian, MT)
G-Webb first, Clemson next Oct 10, 2008
High IQ vs Not too sure - If you d rather your daughter have an abortion for so she wouldn t be burdened that s responsible - get real. Atleast the girl is having the child. (Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- Sports)
Nicholas D. Kristof: Can this be pro-life? Oct 10, 2008
Thus the paradox of a "pro-life" administration adopting a policy whose result will be tens of thousands of additional abortions each year - along with more women dying in childbirth ... It's true that China's one-child policy sometimes includes forced abortion, and when traveling in rural China, I still come across peasants whose homes have been knocked down as punishment for an unauthorized child ... The organization estimates that the result will be at least 157,000 additional unwanted... (International Herald Tribune)
Debate rages ahead of abortion bill's final vote Oct 10, 2008
Debate rages ahead of abortion bill's final vote - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... Debate rages ahead of abortion bill's final vote ... Victorian MPs are continuing to debate proposed amendments to the bill to decriminalise abortion, after the legislation passed its biggest hurdle today. (ABC Online)
POINT-COUNTERPOINT: Reasons to vote for Obama-Biden Oct 10, 2008
Prayerful wrote on Oct 6, 2008 11:17 PM:" If you do not mind a baby being killed as it is being born then Obama is your man. He is for Partial birth abortion. Call it what it is - murder-. This practice needs to stop now. With prayer it and our vote it will. Each person reading this was fortunate enough that someone cared enough to have you. Every Baby from the moment of conception should have the same right. " ... While Jesus would stand behind many of the social issues on the democratic... (Sierra Vista Herald, AZ)
Reject McCain smear campaign Oct 10, 2008
Abortion, euthanasia not open to compromise ... The conviction of every person I have met in the pro-life movement is that abortion and euthanasia are absolutely nonnegotiable issues ... Just as slavery and rape are nonnegotiable, so also are abortion and eutha nasia. (NJ.com -- Times)
Election 2008 Letters (Sept. 25) Oct 10, 2008
As he was poking fun at the protesters on the streets of Denver, he made this statement: But here s the really freaky part: These groups are all made up of people who believe that Barack Obama s Democratic Party which wants to raise taxes, insure abortion on demand, create a crippling carbon cap-and-trade regime, commence a rapid pull-out from Iraq, and abandon U.S. allies from Israel to Georgia isn t liberal enough ... Women who support the McCain-Palin ticket are saying that they do not... (Corvallis Gazette Times, OR)
Joe Orso: The difference between supporting Palin for vice president, pastor Oct 10, 2008
Munns, like Bartling, named Palin s stand against abortion as a major reason for supporting her ... PHIL OSIFER wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:51 PM:" Most of you people need to remove the twig from your eyes. I defend Pastor and I am not a WELS member. I notice that you people also condem the Roman Catholic Church for it's stand on abortion. Which Biden,Kerry,Kennedy and many other Dems support and they are all Roman Catholics [in name only my I add]. If we do not stick to or get back to a moral code... (La Crosse Tribune, WI)
High Court Divided On Whales Vs. Sonar Oct 10, 2008
(2:39)CBS News RAW: During his Senate Confirmation hearings, Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito said he would approach cases involving a woman's right to abortion with an "open mind.". (2:40). (CBS News -- US)
No candidate endorsements from the pulpit Oct 10, 2008
Almost every big issue in public life abortion, environmental protection, poverty or war has a moral dimension which makes it a subject of action or comment by churches, and it seems unreasonable to allow ministers to discuss positions on issues but not discuss the people who put positions into practice. The danger, however, is that allowing the exercise of that kind of power will do more harm than good and will override other factors for the people listening in pews. (Racine Journal Times, WI)
Fall Good Time to Review Mastitis Basics Oct 10, 2008
An abortion is another possible outcome. All tallied, says the veterinarian, mastitis is estimated to cost anywhere from 32 to 107 per case just in reproductive losses. (Agri-View, WI)
Ethanol could be key to Iowans on the fence Oct 10, 2008
Drake University political scientist Dennis Goldford says ethanol "isn't one of those deal breakers, the way abortion or gay marriage is. It's not a make-or-break issue.". In May, the U.S. House overwhelmingly rejected Bush's veto of a $289 billion farm bill that created separate incentives for corn-based ethanol and cellulosic biofuels. (USA Today)
Bush vetoes stem cell funds bill Oct 10, 2008
The process of extracting stem cells from an embryo destroys that entity; conservative Republicans have likened the destruction of frozen human embryos to abortion. Surveys suggest a majority of Americans support expanded stem-cell research. (Yahoo News -- Human Stem Cell Research)
Dickerson: Republicans in Wisconsin Are Really Riled Up Oct 10, 2008
A man suggested McCain talk about abortion to draw the distinction between him and Obama. Another asked, "Why is Obama where he's at? Everyone in this room is stunned. We are all a product of our associations. Is there not a way to get around this media and line up the people" whom he is associated with. (Slate)
Green jobs will help climate crisis Oct 10, 2008
Don't like abortion, lets tax the church so they can pay the health care and criminal cost the population of unparented children explodes. Want green energy, tax the church to pay for it. (Lodi News Sentinel, CA)
To the Editor: Obama's 'change' for the worse Oct 10, 2008
Obama also believes any baby should not be helped medically or any other way if it survives an abortion. Obama s beliefs are if an aborted baby survives an abortion, opens its eyes, breathes through its own lungs, cries, or does anything a newborn baby should do on its own, it should not be helped ... Is not a baby that survives an abortion sick and in need of care. (Gaylord Herald Times, MI)
Doctors association joins abortion fray Oct 10, 2008
Doctors fighting a proposed ban on most abortions in South Dakota have something in this campaign that they didn't have during a similar battle two years ago: public support from the South Dakota State Medical Association ... The SDSMA's Council of Physicians recently decided to oppose Initiated Measure 11, which would ban abortions except for victims of rape and incest or to protect the life and health of a woman ... Two years ago, the council issued an internal memo expressing grave concerns... (Rapid City Journal, SD)
Why Obama Cant Close the Deal Oct 10, 2008
Obamas Achilles' heel are these lower-income, white Democratic voters who dont like his extreme liberal record on abortion, guns, taxes, and other issues. Its not about race, its about his views. (Newsmax)
LETTER: Right to choose comes before the 'act' Oct 8, 2008
Having an abortion seems like a cruel thing to do to an unborn child ... I am not against abortion, hear what I m saying ... But, abortion, because someone is too lazy to put on protection, or take a pill is so selfish. (Mattoon Journal-Gazette, IL)
How can Nebraska possibly vote Republican? Oct 8, 2008
People here don't want 125000 more abortions per yr which would happen with obama ... People here don't want to elect a known supporter of radical american haters like the weatherman underground or the reverend wright who preached "G.. Damn america!Thats why for starters Nebraska should vote republican!!! My god obama has been a senator for 143 days! This makes him qualified over mccain? Or is it his black skin? Stop it Oct 2, 2008 10:56 AM These subsidies are a slap in the face of every... (Columbus Telegram, NE)
New embryo test to screen for 6,000 diseases Oct 8, 2008
The plan was to have an abortion if the test revealed she was carrying a boy ... "I just couldn't bring myself to have an abortion knowing there was a child growing inside me," she said ... "There is nothing worse than knowing you are going to watch your own child die." Linda became pregnant again some years later, and decided to have the test, even though she knew that again, she would not have an abortion if the baby was male. (Yahoo News -- Biotechnology and Genetics)
Obama Outspending McCain Nearly 3 to 1 on TV... Oct 8, 2008
Iran-Contra, Voting AGAINST making it a felony to bomb an abortion Clinic, against the Bubble law, Keating Savings and Loan and. NOT VOTING FOR THE NEW GI BILL OR ANY BILL AT ALL DURING 2007. (The Drudge Report)
Emergency pill for Chilean girls Oct 8, 2008
The Catholic Church and opposition parties are against the move - they say the morning-after pill is a method of abortion, which is illegal in Chile ... Despite having some of the most restrictive anti-abortion laws in the world, it is estimated that in Chile 35% of all pregnancies are terminated illegally. (Yahoo News -- Birth Control)
We agree; stop demonizing Sarah Palin Oct 8, 2008
Ms. Greenbaum questioned why Sarah Palin was tested to determine the health of her fetus if she did not intend to undergo an abortion, and addressed her pregnant teenage daughter's unmarried status. A strongly pro-life couple I know once told me they underwent testing so they could educate and prepare themselves in the event they would give birth to a special-needs child. (The Augusta Chronicle)
LETTERS: NCT, Oct. 7, 2008 Oct 8, 2008
More to being pro-life than banning abortion ... 2 million abortions each year is a failure of two people, but also a failure of this country that did not provide an environment where the unborn are valued enough to provide for them ... Abortion is a relatively quick, cheap and easy way to solve the problem of an unwanted pregnancy, but raising a child is difficult, expensive and takes much of a lifetime. (North County Times)
